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	<title>Comments on: Stop the California Coastal Commission&#8217;s attack on coastal families</title>
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		<title>By: Francis Drouillard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Drouillard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Implementation of AB 226 and AB 291 will decrease the cost of enforcing the Coastal Act and result in fewer violations of same. That's good for taxpayers and good for our coastal ecosytem. Every one wins, even those that are hostile towards the Coastal Commission.

Tellum -- If you don't own property within the Coastal Zone that has Coastal Act violations, or you're willing to correct those violations, you won't have to hand over a dime.

TruthTeller -- You seem to know more about me than the Coastal Act. When can we expect to see my biography published? And, in case you didn't know, using ad hominen attacks weakens your arguments, as does hiding behind an anonymous name. And continuing to argue that property rights trump all other laws doesn't work, either. Were that true, private property owners would truly be above the law and would be able to get away with all types of nefarious activities under the cloak of "private property rights." Sorry, but yours is an extreme point of view.

Mr. Oshen -- I am not responsible for the Coastsider.com comments left by others. As you know, the offending comment was removed by that site's administrator. Also, I am not a paid propagandist for the CCC or any other organization. But that accusation does offer a clue to the real identity of some of the anonymous posts at my blog, thank you very much. One other thing -- I have never stated or implied that property owners within the Coastal Zone are enemies of the state. That is a fabricaiton of your imagination. In fact, I believe a vast majority of property owners within the Coastal Zone fully support the Coastal Act, particularly if their property is developed.

My criticism is directed towards those few that think they're above the law, including your friends that inspired the film you're trying to complete. They haven't done themselves any favors and they haven't advanced private property rights, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Implementation of AB 226 and AB 291 will decrease the cost of enforcing the Coastal Act and result in fewer violations of same. That&#8217;s good for taxpayers and good for our coastal ecosytem. Every one wins, even those that are hostile towards the Coastal Commission.</p>
<p>Tellum &#8212; If you don&#8217;t own property within the Coastal Zone that has Coastal Act violations, or you&#8217;re willing to correct those violations, you won&#8217;t have to hand over a dime.</p>
<p>TruthTeller &#8212; You seem to know more about me than the Coastal Act. When can we expect to see my biography published? And, in case you didn&#8217;t know, using ad hominen attacks weakens your arguments, as does hiding behind an anonymous name. And continuing to argue that property rights trump all other laws doesn&#8217;t work, either. Were that true, private property owners would truly be above the law and would be able to get away with all types of nefarious activities under the cloak of &#8220;private property rights.&#8221; Sorry, but yours is an extreme point of view.</p>
<p>Mr. Oshen &#8212; I am not responsible for the Coastsider.com comments left by others. As you know, the offending comment was removed by that site&#8217;s administrator. Also, I am not a paid propagandist for the CCC or any other organization. But that accusation does offer a clue to the real identity of some of the anonymous posts at my blog, thank you very much. One other thing &#8212; I have never stated or implied that property owners within the Coastal Zone are enemies of the state. That is a fabricaiton of your imagination. In fact, I believe a vast majority of property owners within the Coastal Zone fully support the Coastal Act, particularly if their property is developed.</p>
<p>My criticism is directed towards those few that think they&#8217;re above the law, including your friends that inspired the film you&#8217;re trying to complete. They haven&#8217;t done themselves any favors and they haven&#8217;t advanced private property rights, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Environmentalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Environmentalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If AB 226 were to become law, it would unconstitutionally empower the Coastal Commission to act as accuser, prosecutor, judge, and executioner - all without sworn testimony, the ability of the accused to cross-examine their accuser(s), or a truly independent decision-maker.

AB 291 proposes to impose a guilty till proven innocent doctrine, contrary to the California and U.S. Constitutions, by prohibiting a property owner to make an application to the Coastal Commission (or, presumably, even have an administrative third party-appeal from local government acting under its LCP, if Commission staff alleged the property to be somehow in violation and the owner had not acquiesced to its power play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If AB 226 were to become law, it would unconstitutionally empower the Coastal Commission to act as accuser, prosecutor, judge, and executioner - all without sworn testimony, the ability of the accused to cross-examine their accuser(s), or a truly independent decision-maker.</p>
<p>AB 291 proposes to impose a guilty till proven innocent doctrine, contrary to the California and U.S. Constitutions, by prohibiting a property owner to make an application to the Coastal Commission (or, presumably, even have an administrative third party-appeal from local government acting under its LCP, if Commission staff alleged the property to be somehow in violation and the owner had not acquiesced to its power play.</p>
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		<title>By: Tellem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tellem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AB 226 is nothing more than an opportunity for the CCC to employ bounty hunters to fine people without the chance for "violaters" to have access to the court system.  Instead the CCC will be prosecutor, judge and jury for any supposed violation and the fines will be levied against homeowners through liens on their homes.  They will use the money to hire even more inspectors.  To answer Francis' comment, we already have Malibu checking on our "violations" so we don't need the CCC to double ping us.  

I don't know about you but I don't have $5000 to $50000 to hand over and therefore the CCC will have the ability to take my house to pay off the fines.  This is one of the most onerous bills ever to come down the pike and our legislators representing Malibu blindly voted for it without even a mention to the people who put them in office.  It has to die in committee or the governor has to veto it.  Just because the Coastal Commission is running out of money does not mean it has to levy fines on the backs of Californians.  I say let AB 226 die a slow painful death along with the CCC.  

I think the Commission showed its true colors when after 10 hours of testimony form a lot of good people, it voted WITHOUT DISCUSSION (ergo its mind was made up in advance) to allow SMMC to put overnight camping in our tiny canyons DESPITE FEARS FROM LA COUNTY FIRE AND CALFIRE.  Boy what a bunch of complete ignoramuses and Malibu haters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AB 226 is nothing more than an opportunity for the CCC to employ bounty hunters to fine people without the chance for &#8220;violaters&#8221; to have access to the court system.  Instead the CCC will be prosecutor, judge and jury for any supposed violation and the fines will be levied against homeowners through liens on their homes.  They will use the money to hire even more inspectors.  To answer Francis&#8217; comment, we already have Malibu checking on our &#8220;violations&#8221; so we don&#8217;t need the CCC to double ping us.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you but I don&#8217;t have $5000 to $50000 to hand over and therefore the CCC will have the ability to take my house to pay off the fines.  This is one of the most onerous bills ever to come down the pike and our legislators representing Malibu blindly voted for it without even a mention to the people who put them in office.  It has to die in committee or the governor has to veto it.  Just because the Coastal Commission is running out of money does not mean it has to levy fines on the backs of Californians.  I say let AB 226 die a slow painful death along with the CCC.  </p>
<p>I think the Commission showed its true colors when after 10 hours of testimony form a lot of good people, it voted WITHOUT DISCUSSION (ergo its mind was made up in advance) to allow SMMC to put overnight camping in our tiny canyons DESPITE FEARS FROM LA COUNTY FIRE AND CALFIRE.  Boy what a bunch of complete ignoramuses and Malibu haters.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthTeller</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthTeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A word to all - Mr. Francis Drouillard, if you look around the Internet, claims that he's an engineer but appears to be a full-time apologist for the Coastal Commission, trolling every possible site that might malign his sacred cow, and posting incessantly to soft-pedal their imperialism. His excuse is, "They're just enforcing the law! Just learn to obey the law! It's not that hard!" This, of course, assumes that we respect the validity of the Commission... which we don't. And that we believe "coastal resources" are so important that they justify the abrogation of property rights... which we don't (people are the most important resource - they take precedence over all else). And that Peter Douglas doesn't have latitude to just interpret things willy-nilly, which he does. If you confront Mr. Drouillard about his Coastal connections -- he'll wax silent and ignore you. He's intellectually dishonest about his "friends" and "connections." Personally, I'd love to know how he'd feel about a citizens' movement to amend the Coastal Act to deny any interpretation of "development." If it has a foundation for construction, it's development. If it doesn't... it's not within the CCC jurisdiction. And how about we amend the act to bring the CCC back to the actual coast, just a few feet inland? Wasn't that what we originally wanted? LIMITED powers? See, these bills aren't opposed by reckless violators and law-breakers. They're opposed by Americans who want the right to live their lives without being told by fanatics that they and their constitutional rights are secondary to some idiotic environmental religion that has no basis in our Constitution. I love plants, animals, birds, sea life... but not one of them is more important than my Constitutional rights or my right to use my property as I wish. And Mr. Drouillard has no rebuttal for that. Because he's a weak-kneed apologist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A word to all - Mr. Francis Drouillard, if you look around the Internet, claims that he&#8217;s an engineer but appears to be a full-time apologist for the Coastal Commission, trolling every possible site that might malign his sacred cow, and posting incessantly to soft-pedal their imperialism. His excuse is, &#8220;They&#8217;re just enforcing the law! Just learn to obey the law! It&#8217;s not that hard!&#8221; This, of course, assumes that we respect the validity of the Commission&#8230; which we don&#8217;t. And that we believe &#8220;coastal resources&#8221; are so important that they justify the abrogation of property rights&#8230; which we don&#8217;t (people are the most important resource - they take precedence over all else). And that Peter Douglas doesn&#8217;t have latitude to just interpret things willy-nilly, which he does. If you confront Mr. Drouillard about his Coastal connections &#8212; he&#8217;ll wax silent and ignore you. He&#8217;s intellectually dishonest about his &#8220;friends&#8221; and &#8220;connections.&#8221; Personally, I&#8217;d love to know how he&#8217;d feel about a citizens&#8217; movement to amend the Coastal Act to deny any interpretation of &#8220;development.&#8221; If it has a foundation for construction, it&#8217;s development. If it doesn&#8217;t&#8230; it&#8217;s not within the CCC jurisdiction. And how about we amend the act to bring the CCC back to the actual coast, just a few feet inland? Wasn&#8217;t that what we originally wanted? LIMITED powers? See, these bills aren&#8217;t opposed by reckless violators and law-breakers. They&#8217;re opposed by Americans who want the right to live their lives without being told by fanatics that they and their constitutional rights are secondary to some idiotic environmental religion that has no basis in our Constitution. I love plants, animals, birds, sea life&#8230; but not one of them is more important than my Constitutional rights or my right to use my property as I wish. And Mr. Drouillard has no rebuttal for that. Because he&#8217;s a weak-kneed apologist.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francis,  thank once again for your comments. I sincerely mean that.

Please note that I am responding to you in a courteous, professional manner... a manner that was not extended to me on COASTSIDER.  

I should point to SINS OF COMMISSION readers that it is no surprise a professional, meaning "paid" propagandist for the coastal commission would leave such disparaging remarks.  

The fact I am allowing them to post, cheap shots and all,  indicates the urgent need for a serious, statewide, meaningful dialog... and a dialog &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; under the control of the CCC- as  the workshop in San Francisco was.

The people of California are waking up to the wealthy, well-oiled, CCC disinformation machine,  and are abundantly aware of precisely what the California Coastal Commission does in reality, masquerading as land-stealing-wolves in sheep's clothing - and the worst offense? It is under the guise of "protecting the environment." Something&lt;em&gt; CALIFORNIAN FAMILIES want.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;b&gt;People including families, farmers, and ranchers, who live in coastal California are not "enemies of the state" &lt;/b&gt;as you imply, but rather AMERICAN CITIZENS looking for fair redress in a corrupt, tyrannical, broken system. 

&lt;strong&gt;1300 pending enforcement actions???? &lt;/strong&gt; My gosh, this is &lt;em&gt;an ABSOLUTELY INSANE amount of litigation. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How many millions of dollars are going to be wasted? &lt;/strong&gt;

There is no earthly reason for the CCC to even remotely have this absurd number of pending enforcement actions, and the best possible &lt;strong&gt;proof to everyone that this is an agency that has lost its bearings, is power mad, corrupt - and &lt;em&gt;way&lt;/em&gt; out of control.&lt;/strong&gt; 

&lt;strong&gt; 
By the way, Francis, thank-you for giving the people of California the best reason ever why AB 226 and AB 291 needs to be defeated. &lt;/strong&gt;

And yes...&lt;strong&gt;SINS OF COMMISSION has a state full of friends &lt;/strong&gt;
Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis,  thank once again for your comments. I sincerely mean that.</p>
<p>Please note that I am responding to you in a courteous, professional manner&#8230; a manner that was not extended to me on COASTSIDER.  </p>
<p>I should point to SINS OF COMMISSION readers that it is no surprise a professional, meaning &#8220;paid&#8221; propagandist for the coastal commission would leave such disparaging remarks.  </p>
<p>The fact I am allowing them to post, cheap shots and all,  indicates the urgent need for a serious, statewide, meaningful dialog&#8230; and a dialog <em>not</em> under the control of the CCC- as  the workshop in San Francisco was.</p>
<p>The people of California are waking up to the wealthy, well-oiled, CCC disinformation machine,  and are abundantly aware of precisely what the California Coastal Commission does in reality, masquerading as land-stealing-wolves in sheep&#8217;s clothing - and the worst offense? It is under the guise of &#8220;protecting the environment.&#8221; Something<em> CALIFORNIAN FAMILIES want.</em></p>
<p><b>People including families, farmers, and ranchers, who live in coastal California are not &#8220;enemies of the state&#8221; </b>as you imply, but rather AMERICAN CITIZENS looking for fair redress in a corrupt, tyrannical, broken system. </p>
<p><strong>1300 pending enforcement actions???? </strong> My gosh, this is <em>an ABSOLUTELY INSANE amount of litigation. </em><strong>How many millions of dollars are going to be wasted? </strong></p>
<p>There is no earthly reason for the CCC to even remotely have this absurd number of pending enforcement actions, and the best possible <strong>proof to everyone that this is an agency that has lost its bearings, is power mad, corrupt - and <em>way</em> out of control.</strong> </p>
<p><strong><br />
By the way, Francis, thank-you for giving the people of California the best reason ever why AB 226 and AB 291 needs to be defeated. </strong></p>
<p>And yes&#8230;<strong>SINS OF COMMISSION has a state full of friends </strong><br />
Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Drouillard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Drouillard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Oshen proves once again that his analytical skills fall short. 

For a better analysis of the proposed legislation, see http://tinyurl.com/ab226fd and http://tinyurl.com/ab226fd.

AB 226 gives the CCC the power to impose fines for Coastal Act violations, a power that many state agencies use for effective enforcement of the law. AB 226 will relieve the burden on our courts and the agencies charged with enforcing our state laws. Due to the effectiveness of fines, AB 226 will help relieve the backlog of 1300 enforcement cases.

AB 291 prevents the CCC, with limited exceptions, from processing coastal development permits for a property that is the subject of unresolved Coastal Act violations. 

It should come as no surprise that violators of the Coastal Act and their friends would oppose these bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Oshen proves once again that his analytical skills fall short. </p>
<p>For a better analysis of the proposed legislation, see <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ab226fd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ab226fd</a> and <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ab226fd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ab226fd</a>.</p>
<p>AB 226 gives the CCC the power to impose fines for Coastal Act violations, a power that many state agencies use for effective enforcement of the law. AB 226 will relieve the burden on our courts and the agencies charged with enforcing our state laws. Due to the effectiveness of fines, AB 226 will help relieve the backlog of 1300 enforcement cases.</p>
<p>AB 291 prevents the CCC, with limited exceptions, from processing coastal development permits for a property that is the subject of unresolved Coastal Act violations. </p>
<p>It should come as no surprise that violators of the Coastal Act and their friends would oppose these bills.</p>
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